Trollus Toolateus
This troll was short-lived, but he demonstrated one very important troll-trait: reading something into what your post said based on what he thinks a "right-winger" believes. In other words, he thinks that I was advocating nuking Mecca, because that's what all Righties want, right?
He also has another trait of the Lefty troll: he leaves a comment almost two weeks after the fact. And, I'm sure, that because I didn't respond he thinks that he left me flat-footed with no answer. The fact is, I didn't even see that last comment until just now. I really don't have time to go back over all of my old comments, and I don't have them e-mailed to me.
His response was in response to a post about what we're going to do when some Muslim nutcase sets off a nuke in one of our cities.
Tancredo '08
By Stacy, at Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:50:16 PM
What an insightful site, your posts really show your intelligent reasoning and how passionate you are about the problems/issues as you view them in your country, it always impresses me how Americans are so vocal, and prepared to make their points whether it is in blogs or other mediums.
I would like to see your comedic side in these posts too, clearly you have a fierce command of language, and it would be interesting to see what makes you laugh.
By xsapph, at Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:46:03 PM
How does this make Islam different from Protestant Christianity? There are little pockets of Christianity (they call then "churches", though) all over the globe, answerable only to themselves or at most to the leadership of a denomination that encompasses several widely scattered "pockets".
So, most Christians are "anarchists", by your definition.
So are Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and most other religious people.
Even religions were they make a big deal about top-down organization with One Big Kahuna in charge, like the Catholics and the Mormons, have spawned schismatic sects (more "pockets") that reject the authority of the head of the church.
In fact Mecca, and specifically the mysterious object called the Kaaba, is just about the only "center" Islam could be said to have. And you seem to think that taking that one thing away would somehow make Muslims easier to control?
Oh, and while we're on the subject, what exactly are you anticipating as a response from Muslims to the destruction of Mecca? 1) Cowering in abject fear and never daring to respond? 2) Being inspired with an overflowing love for America? or 3) Something else, possibly similar to the way you would react if someone murdered your children?
By john_m_burt, at Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:15:09 PM
So, most Christians are "anarchists", by your definition.
Actually, if you look at the numbers, most Christians world-wide answer to the Vatican. Of those that don't, most have some sort of similar structure.The Baptists are probably closest to the Muslim situation that Exile is describing.
In fact Mecca, and specifically the mysterious object called the Kaaba, is just about the only "center" Islam could be said to have. And you seem to think that taking that one thing away would somehow make Muslims easier to control?
What? I don't see anywhere in Exile's post where he suggests nuking either of these sites would make Muslinms easier to control. The fine senator from Colorado suggests it as a possible retalitory strike, though I personally think we would be better off going after countries who provide sanctuary for the scumbag terrorists, and if somewhere like Mecca happens to be collateral damage, then so be it.
By stuffle, at Monday, August 01, 2005 9:36:22 AM
Thanks, Stuffle for responding at least as well as I could have.
And Stuffle was right: I didn’t recommend that we nuke Mecca. However, I certainly wouldn’t take it off the table as an option. Funny how you Lefties automatically jump to the conclusion that we here on the right are just itching to kill millions of people for no apparent reason other than “hate”. You have fallen prey to your own propagandist fairytales.
If and, I believe, when they set off a nuke in this country they will have murdered our children first. So what should our response be to that? Why is it that you skip the first part and jump right to us killing their children?
Also typical of the Left, you have no answer to the question that I asked, just criticism. That’s because you have even less of an idea than I do what we’d do about the possible situation because, for you, a military response isn’t even an option.
The only way that I can see to stop the mass-murder of our people is to get these governments that harbor and help terrorists to control them. And the only way to do that may very well be to take out some of their cities. If Saudi Arabia lost Riyadh or Mecca, they may finally get serious about controlling the scum in their midst.
If you have a better idea, let’s hear it. If not, piss off. I can get puling anywhere on the Left. If I want answers I ask the people on the Right, who are the only ones doing any actual thinking.
By The Exile, at Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:39:18 AM
An idea? Here's one: pursue criminals, while trying not to deliberately antagonize an entire culture.That, of course, would involve not thinking in ethnic and religious stereotypes.
By john_m_burt, at Monday, August 15, 2005 9:45:53 AM
OK, better late than never, but here's an off-the-cuff response.
I assume that when he speaks of "criminals", he's speaking about the terrorists. Well, 100,000 "criminals" equals one army. You don't fight an army with the police and the courts.
He also has another trait of the Lefty troll: he leaves a comment almost two weeks after the fact. And, I'm sure, that because I didn't respond he thinks that he left me flat-footed with no answer. The fact is, I didn't even see that last comment until just now. I really don't have time to go back over all of my old comments, and I don't have them e-mailed to me.
His response was in response to a post about what we're going to do when some Muslim nutcase sets off a nuke in one of our cities.
Tancredo '08
By Stacy, at Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:50:16 PM
What an insightful site, your posts really show your intelligent reasoning and how passionate you are about the problems/issues as you view them in your country, it always impresses me how Americans are so vocal, and prepared to make their points whether it is in blogs or other mediums.
I would like to see your comedic side in these posts too, clearly you have a fierce command of language, and it would be interesting to see what makes you laugh.
By xsapph, at Sunday, July 31, 2005 3:46:03 PM
How does this make Islam different from Protestant Christianity? There are little pockets of Christianity (they call then "churches", though) all over the globe, answerable only to themselves or at most to the leadership of a denomination that encompasses several widely scattered "pockets".
So, most Christians are "anarchists", by your definition.
So are Hindus, Jews, Buddhists and most other religious people.
Even religions were they make a big deal about top-down organization with One Big Kahuna in charge, like the Catholics and the Mormons, have spawned schismatic sects (more "pockets") that reject the authority of the head of the church.
In fact Mecca, and specifically the mysterious object called the Kaaba, is just about the only "center" Islam could be said to have. And you seem to think that taking that one thing away would somehow make Muslims easier to control?
Oh, and while we're on the subject, what exactly are you anticipating as a response from Muslims to the destruction of Mecca? 1) Cowering in abject fear and never daring to respond? 2) Being inspired with an overflowing love for America? or 3) Something else, possibly similar to the way you would react if someone murdered your children?
By john_m_burt, at Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:15:09 PM
So, most Christians are "anarchists", by your definition.
Actually, if you look at the numbers, most Christians world-wide answer to the Vatican. Of those that don't, most have some sort of similar structure.The Baptists are probably closest to the Muslim situation that Exile is describing.
In fact Mecca, and specifically the mysterious object called the Kaaba, is just about the only "center" Islam could be said to have. And you seem to think that taking that one thing away would somehow make Muslims easier to control?
What? I don't see anywhere in Exile's post where he suggests nuking either of these sites would make Muslinms easier to control. The fine senator from Colorado suggests it as a possible retalitory strike, though I personally think we would be better off going after countries who provide sanctuary for the scumbag terrorists, and if somewhere like Mecca happens to be collateral damage, then so be it.
By stuffle, at Monday, August 01, 2005 9:36:22 AM
Thanks, Stuffle for responding at least as well as I could have.
And Stuffle was right: I didn’t recommend that we nuke Mecca. However, I certainly wouldn’t take it off the table as an option. Funny how you Lefties automatically jump to the conclusion that we here on the right are just itching to kill millions of people for no apparent reason other than “hate”. You have fallen prey to your own propagandist fairytales.
If and, I believe, when they set off a nuke in this country they will have murdered our children first. So what should our response be to that? Why is it that you skip the first part and jump right to us killing their children?
Also typical of the Left, you have no answer to the question that I asked, just criticism. That’s because you have even less of an idea than I do what we’d do about the possible situation because, for you, a military response isn’t even an option.
The only way that I can see to stop the mass-murder of our people is to get these governments that harbor and help terrorists to control them. And the only way to do that may very well be to take out some of their cities. If Saudi Arabia lost Riyadh or Mecca, they may finally get serious about controlling the scum in their midst.
If you have a better idea, let’s hear it. If not, piss off. I can get puling anywhere on the Left. If I want answers I ask the people on the Right, who are the only ones doing any actual thinking.
By The Exile, at Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:39:18 AM
An idea? Here's one: pursue criminals, while trying not to deliberately antagonize an entire culture.That, of course, would involve not thinking in ethnic and religious stereotypes.
By john_m_burt, at Monday, August 15, 2005 9:45:53 AM
OK, better late than never, but here's an off-the-cuff response.
I assume that when he speaks of "criminals", he's speaking about the terrorists. Well, 100,000 "criminals" equals one army. You don't fight an army with the police and the courts.
posted by The Exile at Friday, November 25, 2005
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